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, they will be arguing for his power to be curbs. there is a big discussion. in the u.s., and they are investigating. tomorrow and the next days and weeks are going to be fascinating in that respect. >> as always, we thank you very much. on to libya now, where rebels have claimed victory in the battle for a strategic town. there are conflicting reports about whether or not they have complete control of the town which has been held since gaddafi -- by gaddafi since march. most of the gaddafi forces are said to be retreating west. rebels say 12 fighters were killed and hundreds wounded. the capture would mark a major rebel breakthrough in their bid to push westward. the foreign ministers of europe have been meeting in brussels to discuss the situation in syria. they are considering a series of measures to resolve the standoff between the president and his opponent. in syria itself, anti-government protests are continuing, and activists are warning of potential civil war in the country. >> syria was top of the agenda in brussels today. eu foreign ministers pressured the president assad to reform or ste
greece in hopes of protecting big ones. >> the threat today is for the whole eurozone, so we need to find a solution. >> ministers signed off on what they hope will be part of the new solution, the new bailout fund that will kick in from 2013, but as they all know, a lot could change before then. >> our brussels correspondent has been following the discussions by the eurozone finance ministers in brussels. can you tell us what has come out of today's debt crisis talks? >> the formal agreement on anything has now been pushed back into another meeting of finance ministers later this month, but they have been discussing a lot. of course, the focus has been on greece and the question of a second bailout for greece. is it possible? how much will be needed? when will it be triggered? and, crucially, should private bondholders take their share responsibly? should there be obliged to extend their lines of credit to greece to put off the evil day when they will need a second bailout and call in their dead? the ecb, the european central bank, thinks that is stretching it to try to get that agreemen
growth area. it's a big growth is in the mobile sector and not in the pc market which had to lower the expectations for the pc business for the months ahead. there is a mixed outlook and that is the reason why the stock of intel is losing in the thursday session. >> what other shares or stories are standing out in the session? >> basically, we got extremely good numbers if you compare them to expectations from morgan stanley, the last big american bank to come out with earnings. the stock is trading up by 1.9%. that helps to support financial stocks and wall street. we had a pretty gloomy outlook from pepsi. they had decent numbers for the past but the outlook is a bit disappointing. that stock is one of the bigger losers with a drop of about 5%. >> thank you very much. staying with earnings, things are looking up for american express. cardholders spend a record amount in the second quarter of this year and that sent profits surging to over $1.3 billion. this was a bit of a comeback. many corporate clients cut back on spending during business trips during the financial crisis and f
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